1 00:00:54,259 --> 00:00:51,739 you're listening to psychologies outer 2 00:01:04,009 --> 00:00:54,269 limits with your host professor of 3 00:01:05,810 --> 00:01:04,019 psychology eric r williams good evening 4 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:05,820 good afternoon and everything in between 5 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:09,210 welcome to the July fifth 2015 in 6 00:01:14,660 --> 00:01:11,610 addition of psychologies outer limits i 7 00:01:17,630 --> 00:01:14,670 am your host professor eric williams and 8 00:01:21,530 --> 00:01:17,640 we are broadcasting the inception radio 9 00:01:24,499 --> 00:01:21,540 network com and if you do happen to be 10 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:24,509 on the website please click on chat and 11 00:01:28,870 --> 00:01:27,210 go into our chat room we usually get a 12 00:01:32,810 --> 00:01:28,880 lot of cool interaction and great 13 00:01:35,539 --> 00:01:32,820 questions via the chat room you make 14 00:01:42,469 --> 00:01:35,549 dial in any time you want anytime you 15 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00:02:38,140 --> 00:02:35,569 like magic now our topics well we have 30 00:02:40,420 --> 00:02:38,150 one topic tonight and then we're going 31 00:02:43,259 --> 00:02:40,430 to get and this will be the first guests 32 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:43,269 for the show will be our inaugural gift 33 00:02:49,089 --> 00:02:47,330 our psychology topic is certainly on the 34 00:02:50,949 --> 00:02:49,099 outer limits of psychology because 35 00:02:53,619 --> 00:02:50,959 something that we don't understand at 36 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:53,629 all that's and the topic is synesthesia 37 00:02:58,839 --> 00:02:56,690 and if you don't know what it is you 38 00:03:00,250 --> 00:02:58,849 will in a few minutes and we're going to 39 00:03:02,020 --> 00:03:00,260 do that tell about our break at 40 00:03:06,970 --> 00:03:02,030 seven-thirty and then we're going to 41 00:03:09,970 --> 00:03:06,980 bring on Anthony Cummins I get well he's 42 00:03:12,750 --> 00:03:09,980 actually a sea captain to see a seaman 43 00:03:16,449 --> 00:03:12,760 but he prefers to be called Anthony and 44 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:16,459 Anthony tired out of living in Italy 45 00:03:21,190 --> 00:03:18,650 where it's very early in the morning I 46 00:03:24,819 --> 00:03:21,200 think there are six hours I'm not quite 47 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:24,829 sure we'll ask him and Anthony is a 48 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:27,890 retired pirate a pirate pirate like in 49 00:03:32,860 --> 00:03:29,810 the movies so I'm looking forward to 50 00:03:36,069 --> 00:03:32,870 having Anthony on and certainly uh you 51 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:36,079 know jump in the chat room and if you 52 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:39,290 have questions for Anthony or call in be 53 00:03:46,390 --> 00:03:43,040 even more fun the first person to call 54 00:03:48,910 --> 00:03:46,400 in for any reason will win the second 55 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:48,920 blue tooth Speaker I was a little late 56 00:03:52,870 --> 00:03:50,690 getting the first one out I apologize 57 00:03:55,990 --> 00:03:52,880 but it is on its way so anyway that's 58 00:03:58,089 --> 00:03:56,000 our every week we'll have some kind of a 59 00:04:02,229 --> 00:03:58,099 giveaway so if you call in for any 60 00:04:03,909 --> 00:04:02,239 reason when you do counseling is it 61 00:04:06,490 --> 00:04:03,919 seems you know normal counseling I 62 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:06,500 wasn't dealing with schizophrenics or 63 00:04:10,180 --> 00:04:08,329 people with psychosis most people to go 64 00:04:12,699 --> 00:04:10,190 to a counselor are going through I 65 00:04:16,229 --> 00:04:12,709 called bumps and life you know life has 66 00:04:20,319 --> 00:04:16,239 bumped them usually some kind of loss 67 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:20,329 relationships probably number one so i 68 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:24,800 came across ten the top 10 reasons for 69 00:04:33,010 --> 00:04:28,490 staying in an unhappy marriage now you 70 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:33,020 know i can only attribute this to the 71 00:04:41,469 --> 00:04:37,930 let's see who was it hmm i found a line 72 00:04:42,590 --> 00:04:41,479 it was actually a survey from a United 73 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:42,600 Kingdom law firm 74 00:04:50,870 --> 00:04:46,710 they had 2,000 respondents all were 75 00:04:52,820 --> 00:04:50,880 married parents and eighteen percent had 76 00:04:55,280 --> 00:04:52,830 a specific date in mind in their 77 00:04:58,910 --> 00:04:55,290 relationship but when a weird thing to 78 00:05:01,460 --> 00:04:58,920 put on your calendar September fourth 79 00:05:05,660 --> 00:05:01,470 tell her I'm out of here gotta write 80 00:05:08,270 --> 00:05:05,670 that down okay I just made that up so 81 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:08,280 anyway top 10 reasons for staying in an 82 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:11,970 unhappy marriage our first is number one 83 00:05:17,210 --> 00:05:14,370 is why actually no let's do this 84 00:05:20,660 --> 00:05:17,220 backwards number ten we have too many 85 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:20,670 shared financial interests but that can 86 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:22,650 be undone and then sin when you're 87 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:23,850 finished you don't have that many 88 00:05:28,190 --> 00:05:25,530 financial interest could you gave all 89 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:28,200 your money to the lawyers all right now 90 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:29,730 that was a joke i hope some of your left 91 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:32,250 number 9 I worry I won't meet anyone 92 00:05:37,580 --> 00:05:34,050 else now that's really big and 93 00:05:40,100 --> 00:05:37,590 counseling women in particular after a 94 00:05:44,060 --> 00:05:40,110 relationship ends whether it was their 95 00:05:48,230 --> 00:05:44,070 idea or not 10 more likely than men to 96 00:05:50,630 --> 00:05:48,240 feel unattractive unworthy I'll never 97 00:05:54,500 --> 00:05:50,640 find anybody so that one that one 98 00:05:56,660 --> 00:05:54,510 certainly strikes home I've heard that a 99 00:05:58,580 --> 00:05:56,670 lot of times number eight worried about 100 00:06:03,080 --> 00:05:58,590 how we will manage contact with the 101 00:06:08,270 --> 00:06:03,090 children that makes sense number seven 102 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:08,280 for my partner's money no I've not been 103 00:06:14,030 --> 00:06:12,450 married to someone wealthy if you've 104 00:06:15,470 --> 00:06:14,040 been married to someone or are married 105 00:06:17,300 --> 00:06:15,480 to someone that's so wealthy that you 106 00:06:19,820 --> 00:06:17,310 won't leave but 12 please call in I 107 00:06:22,250 --> 00:06:19,830 think that'd be interesting number 6 the 108 00:06:25,250 --> 00:06:22,260 stigma of divorce is there really still 109 00:06:27,380 --> 00:06:25,260 a stigma of divorce I mean it's you I've 110 00:06:31,580 --> 00:06:27,390 been through one or two or three or four 111 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:31,590 or 500 at least one I felt awkward it 112 00:06:36,950 --> 00:06:33,930 felt weird but I didn't feel a stigma 113 00:06:39,350 --> 00:06:36,960 and I just you know I just felt all the 114 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:39,360 things you feel when you go through a 115 00:06:42,890 --> 00:06:41,520 divorce number five I want to give it 116 00:06:46,250 --> 00:06:42,900 some more time before making a final 117 00:06:48,620 --> 00:06:46,260 decision which I think translates to i 118 00:06:51,409 --> 00:06:48,630 don't have the courage yet to do this 119 00:06:54,770 --> 00:06:51,419 but some people probably really aren't 120 00:06:56,180 --> 00:06:54,780 sure but i have i have worked with 121 00:06:58,340 --> 00:06:56,190 people that have been 122 00:07:00,350 --> 00:06:58,350 wondering for a deck a decade or longer 123 00:07:02,990 --> 00:07:00,360 if they should stay in their 124 00:07:05,930 --> 00:07:03,000 relationship number four I can't afford 125 00:07:07,700 --> 00:07:05,940 to go through a divorce well or you 126 00:07:13,580 --> 00:07:07,710 might not it's it's awfully expensive 127 00:07:15,710 --> 00:07:13,590 it's a i'm trying to think it's i guess 128 00:07:17,900 --> 00:07:15,720 you could easily spend three or four 129 00:07:21,260 --> 00:07:17,910 thousand dollars but if you and your 130 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:21,270 partner are on exactly the same page you 131 00:07:27,260 --> 00:07:24,450 can you can do it without a lawyer you 132 00:07:29,330 --> 00:07:27,270 can buy a kid online and and you know 133 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:29,340 then some couples are able to do that 134 00:07:34,340 --> 00:07:31,650 but if each of you get a lawyer yeah it 135 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:34,350 is a it is expensive number three I 136 00:07:40,270 --> 00:07:36,690 can't afford to move out live on my own 137 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:40,280 that is very common a lot of couples 138 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:43,530 separate under the same roof you know 139 00:07:48,980 --> 00:07:45,690 will they each have their own bedroom a 140 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:48,990 more or less slim their own lives the 141 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:51,510 children are made aware that they do 142 00:07:57,500 --> 00:07:53,970 that mom and dad no longer consider 143 00:08:00,440 --> 00:07:57,510 themselves a couple but i think you know 144 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:00,450 i think this happens a lot an awful lot 145 00:08:05,060 --> 00:08:03,210 of people because a lot of couples you 146 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:05,070 know they're struggling as it is and 147 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:07,650 then you know you're supposed to split 148 00:08:14,030 --> 00:08:11,310 and duplicate all those expenses i mean 149 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:14,040 you know these days just rent and 150 00:08:19,430 --> 00:08:17,610 utilities or a house payment utilities 151 00:08:21,980 --> 00:08:19,440 that could easily be two thousand 152 00:08:24,290 --> 00:08:21,990 dollars you know as twenty four thousand 153 00:08:26,420 --> 00:08:24,300 a year that's maybe you know getting 154 00:08:28,090 --> 00:08:26,430 close to 30 that's a full-time job just 155 00:08:31,700 --> 00:08:28,100 that you know just to leave something 156 00:08:35,089 --> 00:08:31,710 number two worried about the impact on 157 00:08:39,380 --> 00:08:35,099 the children well the best predictor for 158 00:08:41,570 --> 00:08:39,390 how well children will do as a result of 159 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:41,580 a divorce is how well the parents get 160 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:45,570 along after the divorce so i can at 161 00:08:50,570 --> 00:08:47,130 least offer a little bit of help on that 162 00:08:52,010 --> 00:08:50,580 one if if parents get along well after 163 00:08:56,660 --> 00:08:52,020 the divorce their children will do 164 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:56,670 pretty well i mean it's it's no fun kids 165 00:09:03,650 --> 00:08:58,530 don't like it they get a little bit 166 00:09:05,690 --> 00:09:03,660 scared but you know divorce is fairly 167 00:09:07,550 --> 00:09:05,700 prevalent I think I talked recently 168 00:09:09,620 --> 00:09:07,560 about the fact that that fifty percent 169 00:09:12,620 --> 00:09:09,630 statistic is way off 170 00:09:16,220 --> 00:09:12,630 the divorce rate is closer to between 20 171 00:09:19,460 --> 00:09:16,230 and 25 percent and then the number one 172 00:09:23,090 --> 00:09:19,470 reason is I have too much to lose and I 173 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:23,100 wish I could have read the comments for 174 00:09:30,260 --> 00:09:26,910 that cuz I think we've covered money or 175 00:09:32,750 --> 00:09:30,270 maybe it's just belongings or all the 176 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:32,760 stuff that the couple has done together 177 00:09:39,620 --> 00:09:38,250 over time but I think the details for 178 00:09:41,450 --> 00:09:39,630 that would have been interesting now 179 00:09:44,030 --> 00:09:41,460 they had another list the top 10 things 180 00:09:46,730 --> 00:09:44,040 parents do to keep up appearances I'll 181 00:09:49,130 --> 00:09:46,740 run through that kind of fast number one 182 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:49,140 keeping problems bottled up rather than 183 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:52,290 discussing them yep number two argue in 184 00:09:56,540 --> 00:09:53,910 a different room away from the children 185 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:56,550 oh if you got out argue don't do it in 186 00:10:01,790 --> 00:09:58,970 front of kids that they do find scary 187 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:01,800 enjoy family Christmas and birthdays 188 00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:05,610 sleep in the same bed go on family 189 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:08,640 holidays go on family day trips cuddle 190 00:10:13,370 --> 00:10:10,890 up on the sofa to watch TV in front of 191 00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:13,380 the children kiss each other goodbye in 192 00:10:19,430 --> 00:10:15,360 the mornings hold hands go on date 193 00:10:22,460 --> 00:10:19,440 nights so I since it's called the top 10 194 00:10:24,500 --> 00:10:22,470 list parents do to keep up appearances I 195 00:10:29,090 --> 00:10:24,510 think this is when they're faking the 196 00:10:30,890 --> 00:10:29,100 marriage I don't know but twenty to 197 00:10:31,940 --> 00:10:30,900 twenty-five percent of you that it was 198 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:31,950 thing had probably been through a 199 00:10:38,090 --> 00:10:34,370 divorce so I'm sure a lot of those 200 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:38,100 struck the board with you alright let's 201 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:42,170 get let's get back over here to 202 00:10:50,060 --> 00:10:46,290 computers and a tablet and a dog the dog 203 00:10:51,650 --> 00:10:50,070 goes asleep I hope she stays I'm worried 204 00:10:54,620 --> 00:10:51,660 is gonna be a noise outside and then 205 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:54,630 she's gonna go she's going to go nuts um 206 00:10:59,570 --> 00:10:56,850 I want to talk about this evening our 207 00:11:03,620 --> 00:10:59,580 topic is then synesthesia and 208 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:03,630 synesthesia is first of all it's it has 209 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:08,610 to be neurological it occurs when of two 210 00:11:16,820 --> 00:11:13,290 or more of our senses commingle or kind 211 00:11:20,889 --> 00:11:16,830 of trade places a very common form of 212 00:11:24,220 --> 00:11:20,899 synesthesia is colors and numbers 213 00:11:27,069 --> 00:11:24,230 for example there are people that have 214 00:11:30,340 --> 00:11:27,079 these these incredible math abilities 215 00:11:33,429 --> 00:11:30,350 and when their question about how did 216 00:11:36,069 --> 00:11:33,439 you solve such a complicated problem 217 00:11:39,549 --> 00:11:36,079 they'll say well i just i just read back 218 00:11:44,619 --> 00:11:39,559 the colors so if you ask them for 219 00:11:47,980 --> 00:11:44,629 example you know what's 75 x 92 they see 220 00:11:50,859 --> 00:11:47,990 colors and let's say you know the color 221 00:11:54,489 --> 00:11:50,869 yellow is 5 and the color red is 3 222 00:11:56,259 --> 00:11:54,499 whatever they just read off the the 223 00:11:59,619 --> 00:11:56,269 colors so we have two things going on 224 00:12:03,879 --> 00:11:59,629 there one we have we have colors that 225 00:12:07,329 --> 00:12:03,889 that are that are our numbers and the 226 00:12:10,150 --> 00:12:07,339 person isn't consciously aware of even 227 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:10,160 doing the math I hear a problem and then 228 00:12:20,379 --> 00:12:15,050 they basically sing a rainbow I want it 229 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:20,389 fine let's see this is a yob a short 230 00:12:25,749 --> 00:12:22,730 little thing i found this is hot i'm 231 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:25,759 guessing that this girl was either a 232 00:12:31,239 --> 00:12:28,730 teen or a preteen but she writes I know 233 00:12:33,329 --> 00:12:31,249 that the number four is yellow but I 234 00:12:36,369 --> 00:12:33,339 have a friend who insists for his red 235 00:12:38,350 --> 00:12:36,379 she also says for has a motherly 236 00:12:41,350 --> 00:12:38,360 personality and my four has no 237 00:12:43,809 --> 00:12:41,360 personality none of my numbers do but 238 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:43,819 all of my numbers have colors and so do 239 00:12:49,210 --> 00:12:46,730 my letters days and months my friend and 240 00:12:51,850 --> 00:12:49,220 I both have synesthesia perceptual 241 00:12:53,759 --> 00:12:51,860 condition in which the stimulation of 242 00:12:57,309 --> 00:12:53,769 one sense triggers an automatic 243 00:13:00,549 --> 00:12:57,319 involuntary experience and another sense 244 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:00,559 and synesthesia can occur between just 245 00:13:05,169 --> 00:13:02,569 about any combination of a sudden there 246 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:05,179 are people that taste sounds there are 247 00:13:08,769 --> 00:13:06,649 people they can't hear a certain sound 248 00:13:11,199 --> 00:13:08,779 because you know they feel like they 249 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:11,209 have a mouthful dog poop or whatever a 250 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:15,290 person who has this condition I mean I 251 00:13:20,169 --> 00:13:18,529 don't know if it's a disorder I'm not 252 00:13:26,379 --> 00:13:20,179 sure what to call it are called 253 00:13:28,539 --> 00:13:26,389 synesthetes set of states oh and select 254 00:13:31,090 --> 00:13:28,549 that's I guess I could be the plural to 255 00:13:33,340 --> 00:13:31,100 they met may see sounds tastes words 256 00:13:34,070 --> 00:13:33,350 feel a sensation on their skin when they 257 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:34,080 smell it 258 00:13:41,180 --> 00:13:38,010 sent or hear something they may also see 259 00:13:43,820 --> 00:13:41,190 abstract concepts like time projected in 260 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:43,830 the space around them such as looking at 261 00:13:49,220 --> 00:13:47,490 it ended image and many sent estates 262 00:13:52,130 --> 00:13:49,230 experienced more than one form of the 263 00:13:54,860 --> 00:13:52,140 condition she goes on to say for example 264 00:14:01,310 --> 00:13:54,870 my friend and i both have grapheme it's 265 00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:01,320 a gra pheme color synesthesia numbers 266 00:14:07,310 --> 00:14:05,760 and letters trigger color experience she 267 00:14:09,230 --> 00:14:07,320 says because her numbers have 268 00:14:12,850 --> 00:14:09,240 personality she also has a form of 269 00:14:16,550 --> 00:14:12,860 synesthesia known as ordinal linguistic 270 00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:16,560 personification born police i was able 271 00:14:22,730 --> 00:14:20,070 to say that that was pretty good anyway 272 00:14:24,050 --> 00:14:22,740 David Eagleman a neuroscientist and 273 00:14:26,060 --> 00:14:24,060 director of the laboratory for 274 00:14:28,490 --> 00:14:26,070 perception and action at the baylor 275 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:28,500 college of medicine he's not a sin 276 00:14:35,510 --> 00:14:32,370 estate but he he does study them his 277 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:35,520 analogy is when you see a photo and the 278 00:14:40,490 --> 00:14:36,810 article there's a picture of President 279 00:14:42,890 --> 00:14:40,500 Obama when you see this photo you think 280 00:14:44,570 --> 00:14:42,900 President Obama even though those words 281 00:14:47,510 --> 00:14:44,580 aren't written anywhere on the picture 282 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:47,520 your brain automatically generates that 283 00:14:52,370 --> 00:14:49,650 for you it makes that connection with 284 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:52,380 its it's called the Association cortex 285 00:14:57,740 --> 00:14:55,050 of the occipital region of the brain 286 00:15:01,370 --> 00:14:57,750 kinda its collects like Google you know 287 00:15:03,530 --> 00:15:01,380 little it looks things up 47 states this 288 00:15:05,750 --> 00:15:03,540 can happen just right out in front of 289 00:15:07,820 --> 00:15:05,760 them now that is really interesting 290 00:15:09,470 --> 00:15:07,830 about forty percent of set of states 291 00:15:11,990 --> 00:15:09,480 have a first degree relative with 292 00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:12,000 synesthesia so that it's kind of an 293 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:14,190 argument for at least a certain degree 294 00:15:23,870 --> 00:15:20,610 of genetic transmission Oh most sent 295 00:15:27,290 --> 00:15:23,880 estates recall having synesthesia for as 296 00:15:28,940 --> 00:15:27,300 long as they can remember let's see this 297 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:28,950 is I think this is the same girl again I 298 00:15:32,510 --> 00:15:30,450 was definitely playing with it when I 299 00:15:34,390 --> 00:15:32,520 was five or six because I remember 300 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:34,400 raiding my parents record cabinet 301 00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:37,170 searching for records that i liked to 302 00:15:44,180 --> 00:15:40,710 listen to four colors different person 303 00:15:47,750 --> 00:15:44,190 okay CSG associate scholars with sounds 304 00:15:50,060 --> 00:15:47,760 and tastes Eagleman slab is searching 305 00:15:52,130 --> 00:15:50,070 for the genes at trigger synesthesia and 306 00:15:54,890 --> 00:15:52,140 he's already identified a region on 307 00:15:58,550 --> 00:15:54,900 chromosome 16 that's linked to graphene 308 00:16:00,680 --> 00:15:58,560 colored synesthesia it's possible no we 309 00:16:02,900 --> 00:16:00,690 could all do this there's this phrase 310 00:16:05,150 --> 00:16:02,910 called the tyranny of the frontal lobes 311 00:16:06,950 --> 00:16:05,160 that when your frontal lobes which is 312 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:06,960 where you do all your heavy-duty 313 00:16:13,850 --> 00:16:10,050 thinking is working it kind of turns 314 00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:13,860 down the other parts of your brain like 315 00:16:20,150 --> 00:16:15,510 your occipital lobe when your parietal 316 00:16:21,980 --> 00:16:20,160 lobes and does its processing but this 317 00:16:23,870 --> 00:16:21,990 may not be happening the cinna stix 318 00:16:26,510 --> 00:16:23,880 their their various senses may be 319 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:26,520 allowed to sort of keep running but not 320 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:30,690 in in the background so and it makes you 321 00:16:39,310 --> 00:16:34,710 wonder if in the future we could we 322 00:16:42,290 --> 00:16:39,320 could create synesthesia people here's 323 00:16:43,940 --> 00:16:42,300 here's one person who said if you tell 324 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:43,950 me that your letter j is a very 325 00:16:50,300 --> 00:16:48,090 particular no this is the experimenter 326 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:50,310 if you did if you tell him that the 327 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:52,170 letter j is a very particular shade of 328 00:16:58,070 --> 00:16:54,810 powder blue then he tests them on that 329 00:16:59,630 --> 00:16:58,080 for a very precise shade and you know 330 00:17:01,850 --> 00:16:59,640 there can be thousands and thousands of 331 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:01,860 shades and if you're just being poetic 332 00:17:05,890 --> 00:17:03,930 or metaphorical or making something up 333 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:05,900 then you can capture those colors again 334 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:08,970 but if you're really synesthetic then 335 00:17:15,740 --> 00:17:11,370 when you come back several years later 336 00:17:18,530 --> 00:17:15,750 and go to letter j they'll go to that 337 00:17:20,510 --> 00:17:18,540 very very same shade as really 338 00:17:23,810 --> 00:17:20,520 interesting so right now they're using 339 00:17:26,990 --> 00:17:23,820 really high-tech imaging like positron 340 00:17:32,210 --> 00:17:27,000 emission tomography and it sits in a way 341 00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:32,220 it's like an MRI to try to find out what 342 00:17:38,780 --> 00:17:35,070 parts of the brain or sort of lighting 343 00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:38,790 up interestingly enough i read that some 344 00:17:44,660 --> 00:17:41,280 car companies are hiring synesthetes 345 00:17:47,870 --> 00:17:44,670 because the way they experience colors 346 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:47,880 and sounds helps the car company make 347 00:17:52,430 --> 00:17:50,730 decisions about what colors they may 348 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:52,440 want to use and you know that i'm not 349 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:55,770 sure if all I don't do this but up some 350 00:18:00,630 --> 00:17:58,770 electric cars have speakers that make an 351 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:00,640 engine kind of sound 352 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:02,890 because an electric car doesn't make any 353 00:18:10,260 --> 00:18:06,130 sound it would be really easy to run 354 00:18:12,870 --> 00:18:10,270 over somebody so they have to they have 355 00:18:15,540 --> 00:18:12,880 to they have to create up create a sound 356 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:15,550 I wonder if there would be a way to you 357 00:18:20,970 --> 00:18:18,190 know maybe the sin estates help them 358 00:18:25,650 --> 00:18:20,980 figure out what sounds you know the most 359 00:18:28,590 --> 00:18:25,660 like a car catching up to you in 2005 360 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:28,600 daniel Tammet set the european record 361 00:18:37,710 --> 00:18:34,570 for pi memorization I know 3.14159 362 00:18:41,930 --> 00:18:37,720 that's as far as I can get anyway he 363 00:18:45,540 --> 00:18:41,940 memorized 20 2514 bigots in five hours 364 00:18:47,910 --> 00:18:45,550 and he attributed the this fate to his 365 00:18:51,150 --> 00:18:47,920 ability see numbers would caller to him 366 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:51,160 when he was thinking about pie it was 367 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:53,890 like the world's longest train going by 368 00:18:58,380 --> 00:18:56,530 and every car was a different color and 369 00:19:01,980 --> 00:18:58,390 one yellow when he saw yellow we'd say 370 00:19:03,450 --> 00:19:01,990 to and when he saw ready say four but to 371 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:03,460 me what's just as interesting is that 372 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:06,810 his brain is calculating pi 2 over 373 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:09,610 22,000 digits and he didn't make any 374 00:19:16,050 --> 00:19:13,330 hairs so the synesthesia itself is 375 00:19:19,290 --> 00:19:16,060 interesting that people would sort of 376 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:19,300 conjoined there are other senses but 377 00:19:27,890 --> 00:19:21,730 what's just as interesting to me is the 378 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:31,920 cognitive feats for about four years i 379 00:19:39,210 --> 00:19:36,250 worked with young adults 18 to 21 that 380 00:19:40,740 --> 00:19:39,220 were mentally well we have a 381 00:19:43,890 --> 00:19:40,750 new term now we use intellectual 382 00:19:45,780 --> 00:19:43,900 disability they could stay in school in 383 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:45,790 the high school system till they were 21 384 00:19:50,940 --> 00:19:48,730 and I worked with them in groups of 385 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:50,950 eight or ten we met for about six weeks 386 00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:53,050 once a week for three or four hours and 387 00:19:59,370 --> 00:19:55,510 just just on just on living skills and 388 00:20:02,610 --> 00:19:59,380 stuff like that but a couple of the 389 00:20:04,950 --> 00:20:02,620 folks i work with were autistic you know 390 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:04,960 autism's on a spectrum now you know it's 391 00:20:09,450 --> 00:20:07,690 like a speedometer if you barely have it 392 00:20:11,690 --> 00:20:09,460 you know you got two miles an hour worth 393 00:20:14,370 --> 00:20:11,700 of autism and if you've got the really 394 00:20:16,650 --> 00:20:14,380 severe forms or you know 395 00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:16,660 you might hurt yourself you got 120 396 00:20:22,590 --> 00:20:19,840 miles per hour worth of autism but there 397 00:20:24,780 --> 00:20:22,600 was um this one fellow in particular is 398 00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:24,790 very hard to communicate he'd allow a 399 00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:27,520 lot of what we call echolalia he just 400 00:20:34,530 --> 00:20:31,110 simply repeated what you said but he um 401 00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:34,540 if you gave him a date he could tell you 402 00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:36,760 what day of the week it was I remember 403 00:20:41,220 --> 00:20:39,040 when someone told me that I want my 404 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:41,230 called him over and I said if I tell you 405 00:20:45,540 --> 00:20:42,790 my birthday can you tell me what day of 406 00:20:48,270 --> 00:20:45,550 the week it is and he just nodded so I 407 00:20:52,590 --> 00:20:48,280 said January first nineteen fifty-eight 408 00:20:54,060 --> 00:20:52,600 and I I swear to God that the eighth was 409 00:20:56,910 --> 00:20:54,070 still floating in the air when he said 410 00:21:00,210 --> 00:20:56,920 Wednesday you know that's a savant 411 00:21:03,210 --> 00:21:00,220 ability you know I mean I what in the 412 00:21:07,010 --> 00:21:03,220 world is going on in his brain he was 413 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:07,020 also a map savant he couldn't forget 414 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:09,730 basically any kind of map he's saying I 415 00:21:16,260 --> 00:21:12,930 live in the east coast in Maryland and I 416 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:16,270 haven't seen the young man in four or 417 00:21:21,660 --> 00:21:18,850 five years but he could probably tell 418 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:21,670 you the name of every road and at least 419 00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:27,930 a 100 mile radius of frederick city and 420 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:31,000 all things along the road and when they 421 00:21:37,620 --> 00:21:34,450 were built so on hand he had some very 422 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:37,630 incredible gifts he could do the math 423 00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:39,730 thing today the week thing he had this 424 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:43,600 this gift for math maps but on the other 425 00:21:47,810 --> 00:21:45,490 hand it was almost impossible to 426 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:47,820 communicate with him he was uh he 427 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:50,530 struggled to say hello and yet he 428 00:21:56,550 --> 00:21:53,770 somehow had a personality he was I 429 00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:56,560 really enjoyed him I remember running 430 00:22:03,180 --> 00:22:00,400 into him in the mall and he walked up to 431 00:22:05,730 --> 00:22:03,190 me very robotic like put put his hand 432 00:22:07,710 --> 00:22:05,740 out and said hello mr. Williams and 433 00:22:10,380 --> 00:22:07,720 shook my hand because I don't think he 434 00:22:16,890 --> 00:22:10,390 can I'm not sure this kid can forget 435 00:22:20,610 --> 00:22:16,900 anything sometimes people aren't born 436 00:22:24,660 --> 00:22:20,620 with synesthesia sometimes they acquire 437 00:22:27,070 --> 00:22:24,670 it through an accident or an injury so 438 00:22:30,490 --> 00:22:27,080 there was this guy in Toronto 439 00:22:32,350 --> 00:22:30,500 after he had a stroke it says about nine 440 00:22:34,450 --> 00:22:32,360 months after suffering a stroke the 441 00:22:37,180 --> 00:22:34,460 patient noticed that words written in a 442 00:22:39,639 --> 00:22:37,190 certain shade of blue evoke the strong 443 00:22:42,279 --> 00:22:39,649 feeling of disgust yellow was only 444 00:22:44,830 --> 00:22:42,289 slightly better raspberries which he 445 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:44,840 never used to which he had never used to 446 00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:47,510 eat very often now tasted like blue and 447 00:22:53,860 --> 00:22:50,110 blue tasted like raspberries 448 00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:53,870 high-pitched brass instruments elicited 449 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:55,760 feelings of ecstasy and light blue 450 00:23:01,120 --> 00:22:58,730 flashes in his peripheral vision caused 451 00:23:04,450 --> 00:23:01,130 large parts of his brain to light up on 452 00:23:06,340 --> 00:23:04,460 an MRI so you know again if we have this 453 00:23:09,370 --> 00:23:06,350 incredible technology we can put a 454 00:23:12,129 --> 00:23:09,380 person in an MRI and then you know show 455 00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:12,139 them colors or play sounds and and their 456 00:23:17,259 --> 00:23:14,510 brain isn't lighting up the way it would 457 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:17,269 if they didn't have this particular you 458 00:23:22,539 --> 00:23:20,570 know this condition because i'm not i'm 459 00:23:25,810 --> 00:23:22,549 just not sure if it's a disorder you 460 00:23:29,289 --> 00:23:25,820 know schizophrenia is a disorder anxiety 461 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:29,299 depression but some of these folks have 462 00:23:36,250 --> 00:23:32,090 you know along with the synesthesia they 463 00:23:38,620 --> 00:23:36,260 have incredible incredible gifts but 464 00:23:40,810 --> 00:23:38,630 most synesthetes are bored with the 465 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:40,820 condition but there's been at least two 466 00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:44,330 people this this neurologist said that 467 00:23:50,759 --> 00:23:48,049 develop synesthesia after experiencing a 468 00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:50,769 stroke I thought I wrote about one who 469 00:23:59,680 --> 00:23:53,840 picked up the condition after a car 470 00:24:04,360 --> 00:23:59,690 accident absolutely amazing stuff it's I 471 00:24:09,399 --> 00:24:04,370 i had another young man i knew that had 472 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:09,409 a he was autistic its and again you know 473 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:11,330 you really have to pay attention to the 474 00:24:18,399 --> 00:24:14,630 spectrum of autism because on the one 475 00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:18,409 hand he has all of the typical issues 476 00:24:25,779 --> 00:24:21,769 that many autistic people have and and 477 00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:25,789 and that's social stuff yet you know 478 00:24:32,649 --> 00:24:30,320 waving if you're waving to him he may 479 00:24:34,269 --> 00:24:32,659 not know if you're shooting a fly away 480 00:24:36,399 --> 00:24:34,279 pointing to something you know the 481 00:24:38,249 --> 00:24:36,409 social niceties of the world don't quite 482 00:24:42,459 --> 00:24:38,259 make sense 483 00:24:45,969 --> 00:24:42,469 sometimes a very hard time focusing on 484 00:24:48,849 --> 00:24:45,979 more than one thing it's it's like 485 00:24:51,219 --> 00:24:48,859 they're like like there's a volume 486 00:24:53,139 --> 00:24:51,229 control for attention it's turned up and 487 00:24:56,289 --> 00:24:53,149 everything gets equal attention which is 488 00:24:59,739 --> 00:24:56,299 why you often see autistic people sort 489 00:25:01,959 --> 00:24:59,749 of burry themselves but you could you 490 00:25:05,339 --> 00:25:01,969 could walk over to a piano and just play 491 00:25:07,869 --> 00:25:05,349 anything either an actual song or a 492 00:25:09,999 --> 00:25:07,879 something random and then he would sit 493 00:25:13,769 --> 00:25:10,009 down and play it back precisely the way 494 00:25:16,479 --> 00:25:13,779 you played it now he couldn't read music 495 00:25:18,819 --> 00:25:16,489 so it's not like you could put music in 496 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:18,829 front of him and say play this but if 497 00:25:23,139 --> 00:25:21,049 he'd heard a song before he could just 498 00:25:26,139 --> 00:25:23,149 sit down and play it you know it's 499 00:25:29,499 --> 00:25:26,149 interesting that so many times in people 500 00:25:32,199 --> 00:25:29,509 with wit with autism and something and 501 00:25:34,869 --> 00:25:32,209 other intellectual disorders like what 502 00:25:38,679 --> 00:25:34,879 we used to call mental retardation she's 503 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:38,689 generally an IQ below 70 there's also 504 00:25:45,699 --> 00:25:43,369 like a savant kind of thing so there's a 505 00:25:48,699 --> 00:25:45,709 little bit of gift I'm not sure if it's 506 00:25:50,649 --> 00:25:48,709 there to offset the autism or not but 507 00:25:53,709 --> 00:25:50,659 I've had quite a bit of experience with 508 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:53,719 autistic folks and and generally what I 509 00:25:57,849 --> 00:25:55,369 was trying to do was to help them with 510 00:25:59,589 --> 00:25:57,859 dead social stuff that you know to say 511 00:26:03,219 --> 00:25:59,599 thank you when the cashier hands you 512 00:26:06,519 --> 00:26:03,229 change don't let the door at the mall 513 00:26:08,259 --> 00:26:06,529 you know slam shut on eye on you know 514 00:26:12,369 --> 00:26:08,269 the person behind them you know little 515 00:26:14,439 --> 00:26:12,379 things like that st. you just noticing 516 00:26:20,369 --> 00:26:14,449 people that's very very very hard for 517 00:26:25,329 --> 00:26:22,659 okay we're going to go random here for a 518 00:26:28,269 --> 00:26:25,339 second all right I wanted to talk about 519 00:26:30,879 --> 00:26:28,279 this last week and I forgot to this is 520 00:26:34,089 --> 00:26:30,889 again this is this is a condition or 521 00:26:38,649 --> 00:26:34,099 disorder it's called pica and and this 522 00:26:40,779 --> 00:26:38,659 is when people eat a non-food non 523 00:26:42,969 --> 00:26:40,789 nutritious things okay I'm not talking 524 00:26:45,459 --> 00:26:42,979 you know that someone eats something you 525 00:26:47,829 --> 00:26:45,469 don't like like fried chicken lizard 526 00:26:49,929 --> 00:26:47,839 gizzards Oh fried chicken lizards 527 00:26:51,779 --> 00:26:49,939 wouldn't that be something but anyway 528 00:26:55,859 --> 00:26:51,789 this was Pablo 529 00:26:59,340 --> 00:26:55,869 jun 26 doctors extract five foot long 530 00:27:01,349 --> 00:26:59,350 hair ball from girl's stomach a teenage 531 00:27:04,139 --> 00:27:01,359 girl in Indiana's recovering from a 532 00:27:07,139 --> 00:27:04,149 surgery during which a surgery during 533 00:27:10,499 --> 00:27:07,149 which doctors removed a five foot long 534 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:10,509 hair ball from her stomach I can't even 535 00:27:18,930 --> 00:27:14,609 pronounce her name she's 15 years old 536 00:27:22,169 --> 00:27:18,940 and her thing was air she a tear she ate 537 00:27:24,930 --> 00:27:22,179 her hair shade her friends hair she ate 538 00:27:28,019 --> 00:27:24,940 hair that she thought that she would 539 00:27:30,299 --> 00:27:28,029 find on the ground or in hair brushes 540 00:27:33,810 --> 00:27:30,309 and I guess I would have thought you 541 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:33,820 would digest it but you don't the masses 542 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:36,970 the hair for ms Mathis and your GI tract 543 00:27:43,649 --> 00:27:40,330 and it just clogs anyway there's been 544 00:27:45,089 --> 00:27:43,659 fewer than 40 cases of this reported but 545 00:27:48,869 --> 00:27:45,099 can you imagine that a five foot long 546 00:27:52,979 --> 00:27:48,879 hair ball other people will you know 547 00:27:56,969 --> 00:27:52,989 they'll eat kind of heard of them eating 548 00:28:01,200 --> 00:27:56,979 things like windshield wipers or they 549 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:01,210 they might like cloth or pencils I mean 550 00:28:07,469 --> 00:28:04,690 it's it's surprising that that their 551 00:28:09,899 --> 00:28:07,479 body does it at all i'm surprised that 552 00:28:11,999 --> 00:28:09,909 we don't hear of more deaths but our 553 00:28:14,129 --> 00:28:12,009 bodies are pretty pretty amazing 554 00:28:16,619 --> 00:28:14,139 mechanism and in cases like this it just 555 00:28:19,889 --> 00:28:16,629 deals with it sometimes our body will 556 00:28:23,639 --> 00:28:19,899 simply coat something try to stick it 557 00:28:25,499 --> 00:28:23,649 off to one side but I I just can't 558 00:28:27,210 --> 00:28:25,509 imagine what a five-foot-long hairball 559 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:27,220 look like I'm guessing that it didn't 560 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:30,369 look real good anyway that's called pyka 561 00:28:39,239 --> 00:28:33,690 you've probably heard of that in a way 562 00:28:42,749 --> 00:28:39,249 I'm pregnant women develop it's not 563 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:42,759 really pyka what happens is that as the 564 00:28:51,539 --> 00:28:45,809 growing fetus needs and a nutrition 565 00:28:54,719 --> 00:28:51,549 something along those lines the mom's 566 00:28:56,820 --> 00:28:54,729 brain will look up a food that has it so 567 00:28:58,349 --> 00:28:56,830 I'm going to make this up I do this in 568 00:29:00,239 --> 00:28:58,359 class all the time let's say mom needs 569 00:29:04,259 --> 00:29:00,249 you know vitamin D and her brain those 570 00:29:06,050 --> 00:29:04,269 grapes has vitamin D so mom develops a 571 00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:06,060 craving for grapes 572 00:29:10,350 --> 00:29:09,070 okay and the random stuff we're going to 573 00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:10,360 take a break and then when we come back 574 00:29:15,630 --> 00:29:12,310 from our break we're going to have 575 00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:15,640 Anthony Cummings with us I apologize for 576 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:17,980 mispronouncing words allergies are bad 577 00:29:22,170 --> 00:29:20,410 sitting and nose is clogged up anyway 578 00:29:24,810 --> 00:29:22,180 get yourself some tea drink go to 579 00:29:27,570 --> 00:29:24,820 bathroom take a stretch and I'll be back 580 00:29:29,940 --> 00:29:27,580 in just a few moments and we're back 581 00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:29,950 folks hope you got a nice snack or 582 00:29:34,020 --> 00:29:31,600 something the drinker went to the 583 00:29:37,380 --> 00:29:34,030 bathroom or whatever it is you're doing 584 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:37,390 on this nice sunday evening and oh gosh 585 00:29:41,730 --> 00:29:39,010 you know we didn't even talk about the 586 00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:41,740 fourth of July I love fireworks the 587 00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:44,260 weather wasn't great for it anyway we 588 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:48,190 have with us from Italy where it is 130 589 00:29:53,910 --> 00:29:51,730 in the morning eastern time Anthony 590 00:29:59,300 --> 00:29:53,920 Cummins and Anthony is our guest tonight 591 00:30:03,180 --> 00:29:59,310 Anthony is a a captain a retired pilot 592 00:30:04,530 --> 00:30:03,190 ypres pirate he refers simply to be 593 00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:04,540 called Anthony so that's what I'm going 594 00:30:09,870 --> 00:30:07,030 to do and Anthony said he wanted to open 595 00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:09,880 with a question of his own so go ahead 596 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:14,200 Anthony a good evening Erica good 597 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:16,810 evening to your listeners on inception 598 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:21,310 radio network this is a kind of a first 599 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:24,490 for me because I'm going to tell you 600 00:30:36,140 --> 00:30:29,890 that i have a problem that falls right 601 00:30:41,850 --> 00:30:36,150 and within the bounds of your work Eric 602 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:41,860 psychometry yes and it's like this all 603 00:30:52,550 --> 00:30:47,770 my life during my my days of work I'm 604 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:52,560 now retired very recently I had to hide 605 00:31:01,910 --> 00:30:57,970 Who I am what I do you're at the Hydra 606 00:31:05,270 --> 00:31:01,920 profession of course and it got worse 607 00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:05,280 you know I would visit my parents and 608 00:31:11,250 --> 00:31:08,350 we'd end up at the golf club and there's 609 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:11,260 the local mayor or the doctor or the 610 00:31:16,580 --> 00:31:14,770 lawyer or the judge and they say ah your 611 00:31:21,740 --> 00:31:16,590 father tells me you're you're 612 00:31:25,180 --> 00:31:21,750 captain and I have to then pretend to be 613 00:31:31,220 --> 00:31:25,190 something that I'm not you're a captain 614 00:31:37,149 --> 00:31:31,230 yes so all my life I've had to pretend 615 00:31:43,730 --> 00:31:37,159 to be something that I'm not finally 616 00:31:45,890 --> 00:31:43,740 recently I retired so I decided okay for 617 00:31:49,130 --> 00:31:45,900 the first time in my life I'm going to 618 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:49,140 open up I'm going to tell the world i am 619 00:31:58,430 --> 00:31:53,450 a pirate that rather be a big decision 620 00:32:04,700 --> 00:31:58,440 it was kind of wonderful Eric it was 621 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:04,710 lovely it was uh Wow very well what was 622 00:32:15,409 --> 00:32:12,090 it did you feel free ya feel proud proud 623 00:32:21,529 --> 00:32:15,419 to room yes very proud you were very 624 00:32:25,970 --> 00:32:21,539 proud and what happened was that nobody 625 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:25,980 believed me Eric so you came out of the 626 00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:28,770 closet so to speak and told people I am 627 00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:30,750 a retired pirate just like in the movies 628 00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:33,840 and they chuckled and said oh you're 629 00:32:39,130 --> 00:32:36,120 just putting me on yeah you smoke too 630 00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:39,140 much yeah you know it's your fantasy or 631 00:32:51,019 --> 00:32:45,140 anyway and I laughed and kept on saying 632 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:51,029 Who I am and I ended up putting the 633 00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:53,370 website you you saw the my website i 634 00:33:01,519 --> 00:32:57,200 think i have it up right now yeah it's a 635 00:33:04,639 --> 00:33:01,529 captain tones t om z dot com captain 636 00:33:09,139 --> 00:33:04,649 towns com what does the T 0 and z stand 637 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:09,149 for haha you know what I have to say so 638 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:15,210 prospective here I'll come to that I it 639 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:17,970 depends where you work in the world you 640 00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:21,840 you take on you take on a name Oh what 641 00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:25,120 like a nickname okay yeah Seneca 642 00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:28,000 and you know when I was in the Red Sea I 643 00:33:36,540 --> 00:33:33,910 was I was kept in Arab own with general 644 00:33:40,830 --> 00:33:36,550 Marcus other yeah which in effect is 645 00:33:44,510 --> 00:33:40,840 Arab 12 the two words Aaron one put 646 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:44,520 together how're those are sooo not know 647 00:33:57,410 --> 00:33:51,370 when I was in the South China Sea they 648 00:34:00,360 --> 00:33:57,420 would call me and captain Tony gummies 649 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:00,370 they couldn't say Cummings which is my 650 00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:04,530 name they ended up saying gummies 651 00:34:11,580 --> 00:34:09,730 commerce it's yeah so do i I couldn't 652 00:34:14,669 --> 00:34:11,590 correct them because of they were 653 00:34:20,010 --> 00:34:14,679 Filipino in the Indonesian and whatever 654 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:20,020 and so it got changed to Tony gummies 655 00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:25,450 became tons oh I see and that was I've 656 00:34:32,220 --> 00:34:30,159 been kept atones for about nearly 30 657 00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:32,230 years and then how do you pronounce the 658 00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:35,710 word is it pirate pirate pirate or pyria 659 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:41,590 I'm a PRN Piron okay doesn't that mean 660 00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:45,129 pirate also appear and is the Greek word 661 00:34:51,869 --> 00:34:49,060 for the word pirate okay it's the 662 00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:51,879 original meaning of the word pirate okay 663 00:34:59,550 --> 00:34:56,250 it was termed by the great sage soul on 664 00:35:04,260 --> 00:34:59,560 five hundred and fifty years before 665 00:35:07,580 --> 00:35:04,270 Jesus Christ and he formed the word and 666 00:35:11,730 --> 00:35:07,590 he formed an association of the Piron 667 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:11,740 uh-huh and then he sailed with them for 668 00:35:19,860 --> 00:35:15,490 10 years that he start piracy for the 669 00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:19,870 kind of investor or so yes okay we're 670 00:35:26,610 --> 00:35:22,630 talking about a great sage who had a 671 00:35:31,470 --> 00:35:26,620 reason for this and what what he taught 672 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:31,480 these Aaron who later the word became 673 00:35:38,020 --> 00:35:34,690 romanized and then bastardized into 674 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:38,030 pirata and finally into today's English 675 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:43,970 pirate all right yes the the word Piron 676 00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:47,810 its history starts Piron that around 677 00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:51,920 pirate 2,500 years ago and now it's 678 00:36:00,040 --> 00:35:54,710 pirate farm exciting a pirate pirate 679 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:00,050 yeah but I really that is my problem my 680 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:06,130 problem is that regardless of my website 681 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:11,050 I'm been in contact with Hollywood and 682 00:36:19,390 --> 00:36:15,910 people who are making films of pirates 683 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:19,400 to be consultant with them we are in 684 00:36:27,210 --> 00:36:22,370 contact but they don't go any further 685 00:36:30,130 --> 00:36:27,220 because they don't believe I'm a virus 686 00:36:32,590 --> 00:36:30,140 is the problem is how do you provide 687 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:32,600 evidence that you were a pirate that has 688 00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:35,690 to be difficult well ask me a question 689 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:39,110 you know if people ask me a question 690 00:36:43,870 --> 00:36:40,370 then they're going to get the evidence 691 00:36:46,540 --> 00:36:43,880 you know we don't go around with with an 692 00:36:50,530 --> 00:36:46,550 iPad and take photographs and surface of 693 00:36:52,750 --> 00:36:50,540 ourselves while we're working so there 694 00:36:55,890 --> 00:36:52,760 are no records of what we do but there 695 00:36:59,220 --> 00:36:55,900 are I mean everything on my website is 696 00:37:01,510 --> 00:36:59,230 true and can be checked out by anybody 697 00:37:04,410 --> 00:37:01,520 anybody could check it out if they have 698 00:37:08,170 --> 00:37:04,420 the will to check me out but until now 699 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:08,180 they don't and okay how many years were 700 00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:13,090 you a pirate I became a I went to see I 701 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:17,270 ran away from home at 14 yards ask I 702 00:37:27,730 --> 00:37:21,290 went to see at 15 and things happened 703 00:37:30,010 --> 00:37:27,740 that caused me to end up in Sweden 15 I 704 00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:30,020 went on the ship way around the world 705 00:37:35,020 --> 00:37:32,000 Australia New Zealand all kinds of 706 00:37:38,620 --> 00:37:35,030 things bad things happen I ended up in 707 00:37:43,290 --> 00:37:38,630 Sweden and I became a pirate more or 708 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:43,300 less I was 18 and a half nearly 19 okay 709 00:37:51,010 --> 00:37:48,290 so all my life on the sea I have 710 00:37:55,510 --> 00:37:51,020 virtually been pirate 711 00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:55,520 so so you were absent a lot oh yes and 712 00:38:01,060 --> 00:37:58,610 your family you how would you explain 713 00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:01,070 your absences just you or pot you you 714 00:38:07,780 --> 00:38:05,750 were ship's captain well you know 715 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:07,790 without going into details personal 716 00:38:12,850 --> 00:38:10,850 details of I've been married three times 717 00:38:14,530 --> 00:38:12,860 and I got children and all kinds of 718 00:38:19,330 --> 00:38:14,540 stuff going on in England it's every 719 00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:19,340 everywhere so yes I'm away and back and 720 00:38:25,060 --> 00:38:21,440 I'm away and I'm back and then sometimes 721 00:38:29,380 --> 00:38:25,070 of course people really you know people 722 00:38:32,380 --> 00:38:29,390 are unfortunately the imagination of 723 00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:32,390 pirates is Treasure Island and jolly 724 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:36,350 deck and quite honestly that all they 725 00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:39,370 can see when you say the word pirate and 726 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:42,110 this is the problem the problem is to 727 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:46,730 break through this false vision of what 728 00:38:56,580 --> 00:38:51,650 is pirate to to understand that pirates 729 00:39:01,870 --> 00:38:56,590 have changed the world and they have an 730 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:01,880 immense amount of information I think 731 00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:05,690 that I think that modern-day people when 732 00:39:10,690 --> 00:39:08,000 they think of pirates their mind will 733 00:39:15,790 --> 00:39:10,700 immediately go to the Somalia version of 734 00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:15,800 piracy which is kind of ugly but clearly 735 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:20,150 it's it's you know the fabric of what of 736 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:21,490 the work you did was a little more 737 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:24,650 complex and textured than that well I've 738 00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:27,050 worked I've worked with I've worked with 739 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:28,910 all kinds of pirates and including 740 00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:31,130 Somalian pirates and I've been to 741 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:33,110 Somalia and I've worked in Somalia and 742 00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:36,890 I've done business there and let me tell 743 00:39:44,770 --> 00:39:40,910 you that with the greatest respect to 744 00:39:48,220 --> 00:39:44,780 Tom Hanks and his film captain phillips 745 00:39:53,650 --> 00:39:48,230 and I love Tom Hanks but the store 746 00:39:57,490 --> 00:39:53,660 hearts the story is something else I've 747 00:40:01,810 --> 00:39:57,500 put a youtube video on youtube on my 748 00:40:03,810 --> 00:40:01,820 channel which explains Somali piracy and 749 00:40:07,590 --> 00:40:03,820 the reasons for it 750 00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:07,600 Somali pirates however do not belong to 751 00:40:16,220 --> 00:40:11,520 any world brethren or Brotherhood of 752 00:40:20,820 --> 00:40:16,230 pirates there they are a separate entity 753 00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:20,830 born of their reasoning which we have 754 00:40:28,830 --> 00:40:24,910 empathy and sympathy bit but of which we 755 00:40:31,550 --> 00:40:28,840 are not connected my deals with Somali 756 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:31,560 pirates pirates whistles basically 757 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:38,650 contraband right oh I see contrib okay 758 00:40:45,210 --> 00:40:43,810 so I mean it's one thing to steal a card 759 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:45,220 and it's another thing to steal 760 00:41:04,290 --> 00:40:54,210 marijuana or guns well I contraband 761 00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:04,300 camps I took several hundred in fact 762 00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:08,140 almost a thousand comes I'll camp haha 763 00:41:18,420 --> 00:41:13,990 yes camels camels yeah like the 764 00:41:20,730 --> 00:41:18,430 four-legged things yeah alive oh my gosh 765 00:41:23,610 --> 00:41:20,740 dangerous cargo and incredibly dangerous 766 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:23,620 cargo Eric you have to be awake all 767 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:25,810 night but that's that's in my website 768 00:41:31,620 --> 00:41:28,330 and the camel you know it's it's it's 769 00:41:35,610 --> 00:41:31,630 just normal work well I'm here for is 770 00:41:38,820 --> 00:41:35,620 not really normal work it's even ask me 771 00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:38,830 as many questions about as you like I I 772 00:41:45,450 --> 00:41:42,160 just want the people or somebody out 773 00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:45,460 there to believe well I think I think 774 00:41:50,430 --> 00:41:47,740 that you know like everybody else I'm 775 00:41:52,050 --> 00:41:50,440 wondering well how does this guy prove 776 00:41:55,290 --> 00:41:52,060 it and you know Anthony had never 777 00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:55,300 occurred to me not to believe you you 778 00:42:00,030 --> 00:41:57,280 know I exchanged some emails I looked at 779 00:42:02,430 --> 00:42:00,040 your website pirates exists I don't I 780 00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:02,440 guess I'm wondering what the difficulty 781 00:42:06,750 --> 00:42:04,270 is people haven't believing is it 782 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:06,760 because you covered up so well well 783 00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:09,370 possibly I don't know but the thing is 784 00:42:17,540 --> 00:42:13,470 that if I have information and I do have 785 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:22,170 great great importance to humanity to 786 00:42:29,250 --> 00:42:26,770 knowledge then this information if it 787 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:29,260 comes from somebody who is unbelievable 788 00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:32,050 they are not gonna believe the message 789 00:42:42,540 --> 00:42:37,510 are they maybe not right so let me give 790 00:42:54,089 --> 00:42:42,550 you message one go right ahead thank you 791 00:42:58,380 --> 00:42:54,099 allora this planet is made of magma it's 792 00:43:05,540 --> 00:42:58,390 a molten ball of magma upon which there 793 00:43:16,770 --> 00:43:10,440 this shell however is cracked in many 794 00:43:19,790 --> 00:43:16,780 places and relic like fissures on the 795 00:43:30,510 --> 00:43:19,800 bottom of the sea exactly Eric exactly 796 00:43:36,089 --> 00:43:30,520 now tides pull the season oceans towards 797 00:43:42,420 --> 00:43:36,099 the Sun and the moon yes so as the Earth 798 00:43:46,020 --> 00:43:42,430 turns we experienced a high and a low 799 00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:46,030 tide as our part where we are standing 800 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:50,079 on the planet enters and exits this high 801 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:53,530 tide mark which is being pulled by the 802 00:44:02,069 --> 00:43:56,770 Sun and the moon are we clear on this 803 00:44:05,790 --> 00:44:02,079 Eric yes so far okay what people don't 804 00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:05,800 stand because they can't see it is that 805 00:44:12,569 --> 00:44:09,310 beneath our feet is in an ocean a 806 00:44:14,970 --> 00:44:12,579 zillion times bigger than the sea which 807 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:14,980 they can see coming in and rising and 808 00:44:21,450 --> 00:44:19,210 going down and they can understand the 809 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:21,460 sea is being pulled by the Sun and the 810 00:44:27,050 --> 00:44:24,010 moon which makes it do this but they 811 00:44:31,230 --> 00:44:27,060 don't understand that beneath their feet 812 00:44:35,250 --> 00:44:31,240 the liquid magma is doing the exact 813 00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:35,260 same thing I'd never occurred to me well 814 00:44:40,650 --> 00:44:38,040 that bit is she to put this on the table 815 00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:40,660 but it doesn't liquid so sure I guess 816 00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:45,070 that makes sense now this happens for 817 00:44:48,930 --> 00:44:47,110 thousands and thousands of years we get 818 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:48,940 an earthquake here and an earthquake 819 00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:51,130 there volcano eruption here it's all 820 00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:53,680 kind of in the normality of the 821 00:45:04,620 --> 00:44:58,530 situation of the planet however lately 822 00:45:09,090 --> 00:45:04,630 we've noticed a an incredibly large 823 00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:09,100 increase in volcanic and earthquake 824 00:45:15,690 --> 00:45:12,670 activity on the can't I seemed to hear a 825 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:15,700 lot about earthquakes lately this is 826 00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:19,090 increasing and the part that is 827 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:22,800 interesting is that earthquakes are 828 00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:26,170 occurring where normally they don't 829 00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:30,400 occur which some people are tribute to 830 00:45:36,210 --> 00:45:34,150 things like Oh what is that thing they 831 00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:36,220 do to get oil out of the ground cracking 832 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:40,000 yes but the earthquakes we're talking 833 00:45:46,620 --> 00:45:42,850 about are real ones which are caused by 834 00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:46,630 the pressure of the magma okay Russia 835 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:49,390 which is pushing from underneath up 836 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:52,810 against the shell during the high tide 837 00:46:00,050 --> 00:45:56,170 so these are the quakes occur one hour 838 00:46:03,810 --> 00:46:00,060 before or one hour after a high tide 839 00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:03,820 nearest to that point on the planet no I 840 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:06,070 had not heard of that before well this 841 00:46:11,310 --> 00:46:08,410 is the new information on putting on the 842 00:46:14,670 --> 00:46:11,320 table for people for the people to 843 00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:14,680 understand what is happening and this 844 00:46:24,810 --> 00:46:19,710 equation now reason there are more 845 00:46:28,830 --> 00:46:24,820 volcanic eruptions and earthquakes late 846 00:46:34,130 --> 00:46:28,840 is simply because the magma that is 847 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:34,140 underneath our feet is being pulled 848 00:46:44,310 --> 00:46:39,810 slightly differently because something 849 00:46:47,580 --> 00:46:44,320 has possibly entered into 850 00:46:50,670 --> 00:46:47,590 the solar system okay that sounds 851 00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:50,680 intriguing no that's my message number 852 00:47:03,600 --> 00:46:58,930 10 the drill that you learned us as a 853 00:47:06,330 --> 00:47:03,610 result of a captain of an IRA yes you do 854 00:47:10,740 --> 00:47:06,340 you understand to see you speak to the 855 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:10,750 sea you become one with the sea and you 856 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:13,090 understand the animals in the sea you 857 00:47:18,270 --> 00:47:16,690 speak to them you understand the color 858 00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:18,280 of the sea you know what's happening 859 00:47:27,390 --> 00:47:23,950 because the magma speaks to the seabed 860 00:47:29,250 --> 00:47:27,400 who speaks to the sea so by tuning into 861 00:47:33,660 --> 00:47:29,260 the sea you can understand what's 862 00:47:36,180 --> 00:47:33,670 happening in the make every not know is 863 00:47:40,220 --> 00:47:36,190 this part of the information that you 864 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:40,230 want to get to Hollywood oh no 865 00:47:46,530 --> 00:47:43,410 information for Hollywood us is a 866 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:46,540 ridiculous Hollywood information oh okay 867 00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:48,730 for making movies about pirates how to 868 00:47:54,780 --> 00:47:52,000 blow Amish ganache stuff like that in 869 00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:54,790 Hollywood stuff I just mentioned 870 00:48:00,780 --> 00:47:57,520 Hollywood because should they have 871 00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:00,790 employed me Eric the film would have 872 00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:03,250 been not much better and that much more 873 00:48:09,020 --> 00:48:07,060 realistic so you like you couldn't make 874 00:48:12,540 --> 00:48:09,030 you could make things more authentic 875 00:48:15,150 --> 00:48:12,550 with what you know well of course have 876 00:48:17,550 --> 00:48:15,160 you ever seen pigs and chickens on these 877 00:48:22,830 --> 00:48:17,560 pirate ships they show you on the films 878 00:48:27,380 --> 00:48:22,840 no no no but I never heard of animals on 879 00:48:30,090 --> 00:48:27,390 the pirate ships especially camels well 880 00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:30,100 well you know when you get time you read 881 00:48:34,650 --> 00:48:31,750 the camel story because it's quite funny 882 00:48:39,780 --> 00:48:34,660 it's quite true and it's easily checked 883 00:48:43,620 --> 00:48:39,790 out I used to to run camels from Berber 884 00:48:46,530 --> 00:48:43,630 I in Somalia and you know every now then 885 00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:46,540 they have a war between between Samaria 886 00:48:54,750 --> 00:48:51,670 and Ethiopia they the border is always 887 00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:54,760 moving backwards and forwards depending 888 00:48:58,140 --> 00:48:55,510 on 889 00:49:00,480 --> 00:48:58,150 many guns they have this this week you 890 00:49:04,620 --> 00:49:00,490 know what I mean Eric right so camels 891 00:49:07,950 --> 00:49:04,630 were for transport well no because if 892 00:49:10,650 --> 00:49:07,960 the Somali is attack the Ethiopians run 893 00:49:14,970 --> 00:49:10,660 away and they leave their camels so the 894 00:49:17,070 --> 00:49:14,980 Sumerians color and they don't know what 895 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:17,080 to do with the camels so they sell the 896 00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:20,290 camels to us and then we take the camels 897 00:49:26,550 --> 00:49:23,710 to place like Saudi Arabia where we get 898 00:49:28,970 --> 00:49:26,560 a lot of money for the camels but I'm 899 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:28,980 curious as american dollars what does a 900 00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:32,170 camera for those days it's a long time 901 00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:34,000 ago but in those days it was two 902 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:35,920 thousand two hundred dollars a camera 903 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:40,810 for 11 camel yeah and you you would have 904 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:45,010 a thousand no I I didn't take a thousand 905 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:49,330 oh okay I took 300 something I don't 906 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:52,450 really remember the number on the first 907 00:50:03,180 --> 00:49:56,530 trip on the second trip on second trip I 908 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:03,190 I wanted to break the record so the 909 00:50:12,270 --> 00:50:05,650 record was an American guy had the 910 00:50:15,630 --> 00:50:12,280 record it a 380 390 Ken how long was the 911 00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:15,640 voyage three days so you needed three 912 00:50:21,090 --> 00:50:19,060 days worth a camel food well no we also 913 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:21,100 had buffaloes on board with loads of 914 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:23,890 buffaloes and sheep it was like Noah's 915 00:50:30,930 --> 00:50:28,210 Ark actually and very dangerous Eric but 916 00:50:33,450 --> 00:50:30,940 yeah we used to take the the camels and 917 00:50:35,810 --> 00:50:33,460 sell them to let that's another story 918 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:35,820 yeah I you know that's a good one oh 919 00:50:41,610 --> 00:50:39,130 well okay but anyway it's is he it's on 920 00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:41,620 my website hey you know can still come 921 00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:45,250 give it a plug yes absolutely actually 922 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:46,990 it's very easy it's to work captain and 923 00:50:56,460 --> 00:50:51,850 it's t 0 and z tango Oscar November said 924 00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:56,470 yeah right go right ahead Anthony so um 925 00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:58,690 yeah no I've forgotten what ter where 926 00:51:01,890 --> 00:51:00,160 were we were worried I've given you my 927 00:51:04,350 --> 00:51:01,900 message that's really cool about the 928 00:51:06,510 --> 00:51:04,360 magma I want people to understand that 929 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:06,520 but you know when they see it come 930 00:51:13,350 --> 00:51:09,250 alta pible que no Eric they all go wow 931 00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:13,360 look at that but when they can't see it 932 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:16,000 they're walking down where where where 933 00:51:22,350 --> 00:51:19,210 are you now Maryland I'm in Maryland yes 934 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:22,360 I'm are from God Gary Maryland the 935 00:51:28,410 --> 00:51:25,210 people in Marin and they don't know the 936 00:51:31,410 --> 00:51:28,420 under their feet under the water under 937 00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:31,420 the or under whatever eventually under 938 00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:34,720 their feet is this memo which is a 939 00:51:40,470 --> 00:51:38,110 liquid which is moving which is speaking 940 00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:40,480 which is doing things i think when your 941 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:42,400 love and maryland this doesn't come to 942 00:51:47,220 --> 00:51:44,290 mind exactly i know that's the problem 943 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:47,230 and that's why I'm trying to bring to 944 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:50,770 light the what is happening in the magma 945 00:51:56,310 --> 00:51:53,410 why the magma is creating these 946 00:51:59,700 --> 00:51:56,320 earthquakes and these volcanoes right 947 00:52:04,170 --> 00:51:59,710 now that is because the magma is 948 00:52:07,260 --> 00:52:04,180 pointing out to something that is either 949 00:52:10,350 --> 00:52:07,270 approaching or part not very very far 950 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:10,360 away from us well you do sign your 951 00:52:19,410 --> 00:52:14,050 website you make some references to UFOs 952 00:52:22,530 --> 00:52:19,420 for example you know that is that 953 00:52:26,610 --> 00:52:22,540 connected to this it's all everything 954 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:26,620 Arik Air that that pirates do they are 955 00:52:30,930 --> 00:52:28,930 taught from the start you know we're not 956 00:52:36,180 --> 00:52:30,940 that many there's only a few hundred of 957 00:52:39,570 --> 00:52:36,190 his left okay but I'm talking about peer 958 00:52:41,220 --> 00:52:39,580 and not just generals pirates a lot of 959 00:52:42,690 --> 00:52:41,230 people are called pirates but they're 960 00:52:44,670 --> 00:52:42,700 not appear I'm there they're just 961 00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:44,680 pirates you know like Somali pirates 962 00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:49,510 right Oh what you talk is is is to look 963 00:52:57,720 --> 00:52:53,680 at the entire situation differently the 964 00:53:02,060 --> 00:52:57,730 reason we always seem to be to win on it 965 00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:02,070 why our job see always seems so easy is 966 00:53:08,970 --> 00:53:05,440 because we do your job where we we are 967 00:53:11,790 --> 00:53:08,980 very into psychology you have to know 968 00:53:14,820 --> 00:53:11,800 your opponent before you take him on I 969 00:53:17,970 --> 00:53:14,830 wish yes I would think so huh you have 970 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:17,980 to step into his shoes think like he 971 00:53:21,950 --> 00:53:18,570 thinks 972 00:53:25,550 --> 00:53:21,960 still like he would do and once you've 973 00:53:29,180 --> 00:53:25,560 done that you you're gonna win aren't 974 00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:29,190 you so you become a pirate through kind 975 00:53:37,130 --> 00:53:32,460 of like an apprenticeship you learn by 976 00:53:39,830 --> 00:53:37,140 doing yeah I was very very lucky you you 977 00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:39,840 don't apply to be a pirate you your 978 00:53:45,710 --> 00:53:42,800 chosen you're right he's no license no 979 00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:45,720 somebody chooses you and your move from 980 00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:47,760 one place to another and eventually you 981 00:53:54,050 --> 00:53:50,910 understand what's happening because you 982 00:53:56,750 --> 00:53:54,060 are chosen and I was lucky enough to be 983 00:54:02,710 --> 00:53:56,760 chosen but simple as that I was chosen 984 00:54:08,210 --> 00:54:02,720 when I was 18 19 and I went on under an 985 00:54:13,790 --> 00:54:08,220 incredible teacher I was in gotland in 986 00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:13,800 the Baltic okay and naturally my 987 00:54:22,420 --> 00:54:18,240 teachings were quite gothic and Templar 988 00:54:26,780 --> 00:54:22,430 in nature oh that's very interesting and 989 00:54:29,810 --> 00:54:26,790 just garlic and Templar interesting well 990 00:54:33,890 --> 00:54:29,820 you know everything is connected to Eric 991 00:54:37,580 --> 00:54:33,900 and I was lucky enough to be chosen by a 992 00:54:45,170 --> 00:54:37,590 pirate captain who I had certain skills 993 00:54:46,910 --> 00:54:45,180 that he required and I was happen to be 994 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:46,920 the right guy at the right time that 995 00:54:52,580 --> 00:54:50,610 simple as that that's how I pirate and 996 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:52,590 you and you said you retired recently 997 00:55:00,500 --> 00:54:56,610 with that what was that voluntarily yeah 998 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:00,510 yeah however you know depends sometimes 999 00:55:07,820 --> 00:55:03,090 they they call me and they asked me for 1000 00:55:09,650 --> 00:55:07,830 some logistic information that's all but 1001 00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:09,660 they don't ask you to go back out to sea 1002 00:55:18,050 --> 00:55:14,880 no that's where I've retired every tired 1003 00:55:21,170 --> 00:55:18,060 from going to see now what you as a 1004 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:21,180 result of your of your years at sea and 1005 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:22,890 as a pirate would you describe yourself 1006 00:55:29,230 --> 00:55:27,050 as as well-off wealthy or callable 1007 00:55:35,410 --> 00:55:29,240 absolutely not 1008 00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:35,420 really oh let's get back to to the the 1009 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:38,260 big thing yeah it's funny because 1010 00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:41,690 building oh we sit on a pirate ship out 1011 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:44,480 there on the sea waiting for victims and 1012 00:55:50,350 --> 00:55:46,970 drinking rum and raping and pillaging 1013 00:55:53,620 --> 00:55:50,360 that's what people think well you can 1014 00:55:58,530 --> 00:55:53,630 you can wait a year two years three 1015 00:56:01,150 --> 00:55:58,540 years between jobs oh so you can be 1016 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:01,160 unemployed as a pirate you know you're 1017 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:05,330 not working as a pirate for even three 1018 00:56:09,490 --> 00:56:07,850 years so in the meantime you have to do 1019 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:09,500 something else so you take you money you 1020 00:56:15,820 --> 00:56:12,890 invest it in something um you are that's 1021 00:56:18,370 --> 00:56:15,830 so you take a break and speaking of 1022 00:56:20,109 --> 00:56:18,380 breaks we need to take one right now so 1023 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:20,119 we're gonna be back in just a moment 1024 00:56:25,900 --> 00:56:23,810 with all its anthony and give you guys a 1025 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:25,910 chance to get something to drink or eat 1026 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:28,010 or whatever you want to do and see you 1027 00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:31,130 in just a moment and we're back with 1028 00:56:38,609 --> 00:56:34,730 captain Anthony Cummins who is a 1029 00:56:41,980 --> 00:56:38,619 recently retired pirate but but also a a 1030 00:56:43,930 --> 00:56:41,990 sea captain and I'm here with an awful 1031 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:43,940 lot of interesting knowledge as a matter 1032 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:45,770 of fact we were talking a little bit 1033 00:56:51,010 --> 00:56:47,930 about this during the break that there 1034 00:56:52,510 --> 00:56:51,020 is sort of a mental template of a pirate 1035 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:52,520 you know sitting on a chest of gold 1036 00:56:59,380 --> 00:56:54,650 coins holding a bottle of rum in one 1037 00:57:01,120 --> 00:56:59,390 hand and an eye patch and singing but it 1038 00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:01,130 doesn't sound like the reality is quite 1039 00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:03,710 like that but something else that you 1040 00:57:09,250 --> 00:57:07,369 know Anthony has talked about it's on 1041 00:57:12,490 --> 00:57:09,260 his website I think it's in his book is 1042 00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:12,500 it is is that he had some experiences or 1043 00:57:19,540 --> 00:57:15,790 at least one I don't know with with UFOs 1044 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:19,550 Alta see do you have any you have a UFO 1045 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:25,570 story Anthony well you know Eric UFOs 1046 00:57:34,180 --> 00:57:32,450 are becoming daily occurrence I mean if 1047 00:57:35,830 --> 00:57:34,190 people take the trouble to look up into 1048 00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:35,840 the sky sooner or later they're going to 1049 00:57:42,460 --> 00:57:40,640 see one but I anything interesting i can 1050 00:57:42,970 --> 00:57:42,470 tell you i can tell you two things first 1051 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:42,980 of all 1052 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:47,570 quickly some UFOs you know when you at 1053 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:49,970 sea or wherever you are even when you're 1054 00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:53,570 not at sea you tend to look at sky the 1055 00:58:01,930 --> 00:57:58,250 night sky I would think so um so you see 1056 00:58:03,790 --> 00:58:01,940 things that people don't see why don't 1057 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:03,800 you would see the sky more often because 1058 00:58:11,020 --> 00:58:05,230 what else are you going to look up 1059 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:11,030 exactly area so sometimes you see what 1060 00:58:21,780 --> 00:58:17,090 we call an invisible UFO it's black like 1061 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:21,790 the sky only it moves very slowly and 1062 00:58:30,250 --> 00:58:25,450 it's invisible because you can't see it 1063 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:30,260 inside the cloaked Oh everywhere these 1064 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:31,970 are the big guys these are the big ones 1065 00:58:40,450 --> 00:58:37,250 and when I say big maybe bigger than an 1066 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:40,460 airship like a zeppole bigger than a 1067 00:58:48,070 --> 00:58:44,450 zeppole okay but they're black or 1068 00:58:50,830 --> 00:58:48,080 cloaked so you can only see them as they 1069 00:58:53,859 --> 00:58:50,840 float across the sky they black out the 1070 00:58:57,099 --> 00:58:53,869 Stars and slowly slowly after its moved 1071 00:58:59,380 --> 00:58:57,109 about 10-15 degrees you can understand 1072 00:59:02,650 --> 00:58:59,390 its shape and then this direction and 1073 00:59:05,859 --> 00:59:02,660 everything else okay so people should 1074 00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:05,869 look also for the invisible the 1075 00:59:10,870 --> 00:59:08,240 invisible ones because they're big guys 1076 00:59:15,460 --> 00:59:10,880 in really if you believe me they're not 1077 00:59:18,910 --> 00:59:15,470 really difficult see you can see most of 1078 00:59:23,230 --> 00:59:18,920 the small mostly small stuff seems to be 1079 00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:23,240 drones and most of these drones seemed 1080 00:59:32,859 --> 00:59:29,510 to be traveling in a search pattern when 1081 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:32,869 you watch the flight path of the drone 1082 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:37,010 it is definitely in search pattern 1083 00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:40,970 mapping lights looking yourself so 1084 00:59:47,890 --> 00:59:43,520 they're there they're smaller they're 1085 00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:47,900 drones and they appear to be dad it's me 1086 00:59:52,390 --> 00:59:50,510 what looking for something yeah they're 1087 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:52,400 the small ones for us and and and 1088 01:00:00,010 --> 00:59:56,210 they're possibly unmanned drones 1089 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:00,020 the interesting story I can tell you is 1090 01:00:10,300 --> 01:00:03,890 that during the time of Solon so long 1091 01:00:13,780 --> 01:00:10,310 and but when we started as an 1092 01:00:19,950 --> 01:00:13,790 association viren have been searching 1093 01:00:26,020 --> 01:00:19,960 for something that they saw okay well 1094 01:00:32,170 --> 01:00:26,030 what they saw happened in the 16th 1095 01:00:36,730 --> 01:00:32,180 century when it happened again and it 1096 01:00:41,220 --> 01:00:36,740 was simply a flying ship describes a 1097 01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:41,230 flying ship that crashed into the sea 1098 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:44,960 not that the jobs are of that no this is 1099 01:00:57,130 --> 01:00:51,890 in the 1680 some are so the first ship 1100 01:00:59,560 --> 01:00:57,140 on scene wasn't pirate ship and there 1101 01:01:04,270 --> 01:00:59,570 wasn't much flotsam left but what there 1102 01:01:06,190 --> 01:01:04,280 was they dragged out on board that 1103 01:01:11,710 --> 01:01:06,200 information went into the pirate 1104 01:01:13,930 --> 01:01:11,720 brethren became a legend in about you 1105 01:01:17,710 --> 01:01:13,940 think those little pieces parts still 1106 01:01:23,380 --> 01:01:17,720 exist um no they don't exist today okay 1107 01:01:25,510 --> 01:01:23,390 but they were described okay they would 1108 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:25,520 what didn't have any cameras in those 1109 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:31,130 days so there you know right so in the 1110 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:36,490 eighteen 1846 1847 it happened again 1111 01:01:41,859 --> 01:01:38,810 this time it happened in the South China 1112 01:01:44,980 --> 01:01:41,869 Sea and the first ship to get there was 1113 01:01:46,660 --> 01:01:44,990 a pirate ship only this time the ships 1114 01:01:50,140 --> 01:01:46,670 were faster and they got there quicker 1115 01:01:53,470 --> 01:01:50,150 and there were more things that there 1116 01:02:00,370 --> 01:01:53,480 were why more things more flotsam 1117 01:02:02,290 --> 01:02:00,380 floating around so they dragged that 1118 01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:02,300 aboard and they looked at that and then 1119 01:02:11,950 --> 01:02:07,609 again that way into pie religion okay so 1120 01:02:29,630 --> 01:02:25,750 what they found floating was the drive 1121 01:02:33,140 --> 01:02:29,640 of the u.s. you be the propulsion system 1122 01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:33,150 they found the propulsion system yes now 1123 01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:35,760 that had to be amazing especially to 1124 01:02:44,090 --> 01:02:41,310 someone in the in the mid 1800s if you 1125 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:44,100 are they didn't know that thing they 1126 01:02:47,150 --> 01:02:45,210 didn't know they didn't know what they 1127 01:02:51,110 --> 01:02:47,160 were looking at they did they they 1128 01:02:55,130 --> 01:02:51,120 described it and that went into pirate 1129 01:02:57,830 --> 01:02:55,140 legend and this news traveled within the 1130 01:03:01,400 --> 01:02:57,840 brother well you gotta wonder where the 1131 01:03:03,770 --> 01:03:01,410 pieces ended up well the piece is ended 1132 01:03:07,580 --> 01:03:03,780 up know where the piece is ended up 1133 01:03:12,890 --> 01:03:07,590 pieces ended up in the Philippines but 1134 01:03:16,850 --> 01:03:12,900 you think okay yeah and this was really 1135 01:03:22,930 --> 01:03:16,860 fascinating Anthony yeah but the thing 1136 01:03:26,570 --> 01:03:22,940 is it's like this you know if you if you 1137 01:03:30,590 --> 01:03:26,580 imagine you invented a time machine Eric 1138 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:30,600 I don't go and you switched it on to see 1139 01:03:36,770 --> 01:03:35,130 if it works and it came on and you went 1140 01:03:39,770 --> 01:03:36,780 oh and you grabbed the first thing 1141 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:39,780 that you had at hand and you put that in 1142 01:03:46,790 --> 01:03:42,650 the time machine and it's a ipad 1143 01:03:50,420 --> 01:03:46,800 instruction manual and you press the 1144 01:03:52,550 --> 01:03:50,430 button and it goes back thousands well 1145 01:03:54,500 --> 01:03:52,560 that would be something well when he 1146 01:03:55,730 --> 01:03:54,510 arrived 1000 years ago the people 1147 01:03:57,500 --> 01:03:55,740 they're going to jump and they're going 1148 01:03:59,060 --> 01:03:57,510 to say it's from heaven they're going to 1149 01:04:01,100 --> 01:03:59,070 put it in a box they're going to pray to 1150 01:04:04,330 --> 01:04:01,110 it and it's going to be like very 1151 01:04:06,950 --> 01:04:04,340 religious item that sounds about right 1152 01:04:11,510 --> 01:04:06,960 now if you send that back 100 years 1153 01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:11,520 instead of thousand then the people are 1154 01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:12,960 going to say our they're going to 1155 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:14,400 understand it we're all you're going to 1156 01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:17,010 say all this has come from a UFO or it's 1157 01:04:27,140 --> 01:04:24,200 and.and but they're gonna understand 1158 01:04:29,780 --> 01:04:27,150 anything right but I guess I'm thinking 1159 01:04:31,970 --> 01:04:29,790 that by the mid 1800s there were at 1160 01:04:34,460 --> 01:04:31,980 least a few scientists around that would 1161 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:34,470 have been curious sure they'll be very 1162 01:04:39,290 --> 01:04:36,930 curious they'd understand something but 1163 01:04:42,650 --> 01:04:39,300 it's still gonna be an incredible thing 1164 01:04:48,170 --> 01:04:42,660 looked away the CIA the government's or 1165 01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:48,180 Secret Service gotta be protected if you 1166 01:04:58,960 --> 01:04:53,280 simplify 24 hours you send it back 24 1167 01:05:04,780 --> 01:04:58,970 hours and all it is is a worthless ipad 1168 01:05:09,370 --> 01:05:04,790 instruction right as time progresses 1169 01:05:12,820 --> 01:05:09,380 information that exists and existed a 1170 01:05:16,210 --> 01:05:12,830 hundred years ago one thousand years ago 1171 01:05:19,490 --> 01:05:16,220 today with the technology or 1172 01:05:22,900 --> 01:05:19,500 technological advantages we have we can 1173 01:05:31,700 --> 01:05:22,910 understand that much better what it was 1174 01:05:33,079 --> 01:05:31,710 we saw okay said I make sense I'm not 1175 01:05:36,589 --> 01:05:33,089 like your analogy of a thousand years 1176 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:36,599 honor years 24 hours ago that was just 1177 01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:38,730 so your listeners can understand where 1178 01:05:45,550 --> 01:05:42,480 i'm coming from here so if we have 1179 01:05:52,430 --> 01:05:45,560 information from a thousand years ago 1180 01:05:56,210 --> 01:05:52,440 you know it's been treated as religious 1181 01:06:00,410 --> 01:05:56,220 from God gage oh so yeah who knows what 1182 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:00,420 well now with the technology we have we 1183 01:06:06,290 --> 01:06:02,130 can understand this information simple 1184 01:06:07,970 --> 01:06:06,300 as that right but it makes me wonder if 1185 01:06:11,810 --> 01:06:07,980 something from a thousand years in the 1186 01:06:14,690 --> 01:06:11,820 future suddenly you know came floating 1187 01:06:18,890 --> 01:06:14,700 up and they brought it onto a ship why 1188 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:18,900 would they do with it now what would 1189 01:06:26,540 --> 01:06:22,170 they do with it now if we hate it now is 1190 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:26,550 each use it build a ship and fly after 1191 01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:30,410 these guys go after but still with that 1192 01:06:35,799 --> 01:06:33,710 sure absolutely you know I have to I 1193 01:06:37,690 --> 01:06:35,809 have to tell you I'm gonna I'm a little 1194 01:06:41,319 --> 01:06:37,700 off track here but I'm very disappointed 1195 01:06:46,569 --> 01:06:41,329 that you're not rich well I have a nice 1196 01:06:50,589 --> 01:06:46,579 house no that's good I have a dog I've 1197 01:06:52,569 --> 01:06:50,599 three ex-wives sad for children I have 1198 01:06:55,750 --> 01:06:52,579 three ex-wives can't be rich by 1199 01:06:58,750 --> 01:06:55,760 definition I have a house in thailand I 1200 01:07:00,910 --> 01:06:58,760 have a house here in Italy and I'm okay 1201 01:07:03,970 --> 01:07:00,920 I don't need a job there worked out 1202 01:07:06,190 --> 01:07:03,980 pretty good I'm okay so it's very not a 1203 01:07:07,660 --> 01:07:06,200 problem that that the important thing is 1204 01:07:12,460 --> 01:07:07,670 to try and get some of these messages 1205 01:07:15,549 --> 01:07:12,470 out that I have right so and some of the 1206 01:07:18,039 --> 01:07:15,559 information look how the Pirates think 1207 01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:18,049 what information do we have how can we 1208 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:20,480 interpret this into your words Eric 1209 01:07:27,339 --> 01:07:22,970 because the people don't understand me I 1210 01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:27,349 speak pirate but I'm gonna give you an 1211 01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:30,049 example how many people believe the 1212 01:07:37,660 --> 01:07:33,680 first page in the Bible where it's 1213 01:07:41,710 --> 01:07:37,670 Genesis and it says on the first day God 1214 01:07:44,349 --> 01:07:41,720 made heaven and earth stop well I don't 1215 01:07:47,980 --> 01:07:44,359 even think the priests themselves 1216 01:07:50,620 --> 01:07:47,990 believe that so how can you really 1217 01:07:52,990 --> 01:07:50,630 believe that well we believe it because 1218 01:07:55,839 --> 01:07:53,000 it's very simple Eric it's very simple 1219 01:07:58,750 --> 01:07:55,849 to believe Eric because on the first day 1220 01:08:04,510 --> 01:07:58,760 the first day the first visit the first 1221 01:08:07,930 --> 01:08:04,520 time God came here we didn't exist when 1222 01:08:12,279 --> 01:08:07,940 he arrived here he put a cross on his 1223 01:08:16,570 --> 01:08:12,289 star chart to mark our position in the 1224 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:16,580 Stars and therefore we existed and we 1225 01:08:25,030 --> 01:08:22,730 came into being can you okay so does 1226 01:08:29,950 --> 01:08:25,040 that make you a believer or non-believer 1227 01:08:34,269 --> 01:08:29,960 oh you can't be a pirate if you believe 1228 01:08:37,630 --> 01:08:34,279 in any religion all right all right so 1229 01:08:40,829 --> 01:08:37,640 are you are you an atheist you call it 1230 01:08:42,849 --> 01:08:40,839 what you like but we are we are totally 1231 01:08:45,059 --> 01:08:42,859 against any kind of it 1232 01:08:47,649 --> 01:08:45,069 okay that's close enough I get it 1233 01:08:49,780 --> 01:08:47,659 without you know without going into 1234 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:49,790 details because you I know you have a 1235 01:08:59,260 --> 01:08:53,330 lot of religious listeners out there and 1236 01:09:02,349 --> 01:08:59,270 I actually I actually don't know oh I 1237 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:02,359 find that a lot of people that are into 1238 01:09:07,209 --> 01:09:04,489 paranormal are actually not very 1239 01:09:09,939 --> 01:09:07,219 religious because they feel like this 1240 01:09:12,579 --> 01:09:09,949 whole system of our existence is more 1241 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:12,589 complicated than can be accounted for 1242 01:09:19,050 --> 01:09:16,489 simply by religion so you're probably 1243 01:09:23,019 --> 01:09:19,060 speaking to a lot of like-minded people 1244 01:09:26,530 --> 01:09:23,029 well that's very nice to know you know 1245 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:26,540 I'm really trying my best hearing to 1246 01:09:32,970 --> 01:09:29,810 keep it as light as possible without 1247 01:09:37,059 --> 01:09:32,980 going into any deep bottom line 1248 01:09:39,249 --> 01:09:37,069 situations you know because what we 1249 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:39,259 believe is really happening right now on 1250 01:09:47,109 --> 01:09:43,250 my website there is a there is a button 1251 01:09:49,209 --> 01:09:47,119 called prophecy I'd like you know the 1252 01:09:51,700 --> 01:09:49,219 guys that anyone's listening there you 1253 01:09:55,959 --> 01:09:51,710 go to my website and click on prophecy 1254 01:09:58,419 --> 01:09:55,969 and that's happening right now so that's 1255 01:10:01,419 --> 01:09:58,429 why I'm here to tell the people what is 1256 01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:01,429 happening right now right now something 1257 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:08,510 has entered into the solar system right 1258 01:10:14,410 --> 01:10:12,650 now right so do you believe that that 1259 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:14,420 there's going to be some sort of an 1260 01:10:19,810 --> 01:10:17,050 event that you want people to know about 1261 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:19,820 in my book the event is called the 1262 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:22,250 crossover it's my book is a fairy story 1263 01:10:27,070 --> 01:10:25,010 because if I wrote it seriously Eric no 1264 01:10:29,919 --> 01:10:27,080 one would even understand would so I 1265 01:10:34,030 --> 01:10:29,929 made it into a fair a modern-day fairy 1266 01:10:36,340 --> 01:10:34,040 story okay which isn't wizards and and 1267 01:10:39,850 --> 01:10:36,350 stuff like that it's quite funny and it 1268 01:10:42,850 --> 01:10:39,860 but it carries this message it carries 1269 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:42,860 this message of what is about to happen 1270 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:46,730 on this planet if you'd like sure and 1271 01:10:51,220 --> 01:10:49,130 when you say about to happen you know do 1272 01:10:53,229 --> 01:10:51,230 you have it it's already nine and so I'm 1273 01:10:55,209 --> 01:10:53,239 already happening yeah it's already 1274 01:10:57,850 --> 01:10:55,219 happening I mean the 1275 01:11:00,430 --> 01:10:57,860 graham in place I mean people who went 1276 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:00,440 we have don't stand here the people have 1277 01:11:06,339 --> 01:11:03,050 to understand when they see a UFO OIC 1278 01:11:10,660 --> 01:11:06,349 UFO okay and internets full of pictures 1279 01:11:19,509 --> 01:11:10,670 of UFOs oh and the number one number one 1280 01:11:23,770 --> 01:11:19,519 a UFO is built in a UFO factory what 1281 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:23,780 makes sense it's materials that it's 1282 01:11:32,169 --> 01:11:28,610 made of our mind and fabricated and it's 1283 01:11:37,169 --> 01:11:32,179 got the crew and the captain and an 1284 01:11:40,810 --> 01:11:37,179 engineer and one or two other guys and 1285 01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:40,820 once you get down onto this level of 1286 01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:44,719 understanding why is this UFO going 1287 01:11:51,189 --> 01:11:48,489 there why is this UFO doing that and why 1288 01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:51,199 above all everybody must ask this 1289 01:11:59,129 --> 01:11:56,449 question why are they so silent why 1290 01:12:03,089 --> 01:11:59,139 don't they speak to us because obviously 1291 01:12:06,459 --> 01:12:03,099 they know we can see them they are 1292 01:12:09,489 --> 01:12:06,469 connected to our internet they watch our 1293 01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:09,499 television programs basically they watch 1294 01:12:16,359 --> 01:12:12,110 the adverts of our television programs 1295 01:12:20,500 --> 01:12:16,369 to co-produce the wonderful produce we 1296 01:12:22,180 --> 01:12:20,510 are making here on this planet and we're 1297 01:12:24,669 --> 01:12:22,190 at and and the commercials they probably 1298 01:12:27,189 --> 01:12:24,679 watch the commercials yeah and I think 1299 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:27,199 we're crazy marshalls yeah commercials 1300 01:12:30,969 --> 01:12:29,090 that's the only interesting thing they 1301 01:12:34,299 --> 01:12:30,979 watch the commercial and understand 1302 01:12:36,850 --> 01:12:34,309 these guys are in a UFO it's made in a 1303 01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:36,860 UFO factory they watch the commercial 1304 01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:40,249 and they see this this commercial of 1305 01:12:47,259 --> 01:12:45,050 this really nice Napoleon brandy don't 1306 01:12:50,649 --> 01:12:47,269 you think they also they would like a 1307 01:12:53,459 --> 01:12:50,659 nice glass of Napoleon brandy so they 1308 01:12:56,350 --> 01:12:53,469 must be suffering there by being silent 1309 01:13:01,330 --> 01:12:56,360 well I'm a ceramic unless they're making 1310 01:13:07,900 --> 01:13:01,340 it themselves one of the chatroom sky 33 1311 01:13:14,650 --> 01:13:11,500 and he also at 0 sky I don't know your 1312 01:13:16,990 --> 01:13:14,660 your sex and also so first of all sky 1313 01:13:18,730 --> 01:13:17,000 wants to know what's about to happen and 1314 01:13:23,650 --> 01:13:18,740 secondly why would they want to speak to 1315 01:13:25,150 --> 01:13:23,660 us well there's a second part first and 1316 01:13:26,740 --> 01:13:25,160 no one to speak to us because they're 1317 01:13:30,130 --> 01:13:26,750 under orders not to speak because the 1318 01:13:34,300 --> 01:13:30,140 program is that there is not to be any 1319 01:13:38,860 --> 01:13:34,310 contact at this moment in time okay as 1320 01:13:45,460 --> 01:13:38,870 for the first part of the question when 1321 01:13:48,730 --> 01:13:45,470 I a pirate finds an island then if the 1322 01:13:51,940 --> 01:13:48,740 island is in such a position in such a 1323 01:13:54,690 --> 01:13:51,950 place and in such a way he will put on 1324 01:13:57,790 --> 01:13:54,700 the island two peaks and two chickens 1325 01:14:00,100 --> 01:13:57,800 two pigs and two chickens why is that oh 1326 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:00,110 well this is normal pirate stuff that 1327 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:03,890 they don't show you in films okay so if 1328 01:14:09,730 --> 01:14:06,170 he comes back along that Costa gain 1329 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:09,740 after two three four five years he's 1330 01:14:16,090 --> 01:14:11,690 going to find an island full of chickens 1331 01:14:18,730 --> 01:14:16,100 and pigs so you can make breakfast as he 1332 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:18,740 can make breakfast it can have an 1333 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:22,250 American breakfast so it's that's right 1334 01:14:29,890 --> 01:14:25,370 I don't know if folks caught earlier on 1335 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:29,900 that you're British so in answer to the 1336 01:14:38,770 --> 01:14:33,650 question for the chat room is it's 1337 01:14:44,460 --> 01:14:38,780 breakfast time it's breakfast time so 1338 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:47,290 usually they put piglets because they've 1339 01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:49,370 all always got piglets on pirate ships 1340 01:14:54,250 --> 01:14:52,490 so they'll put piglets but one of them 1341 01:14:58,750 --> 01:14:54,260 has to be a may one has to be a female 1342 01:15:01,300 --> 01:14:58,760 obviously right and so they put them on 1343 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:01,310 the island you and you know it's got be 1344 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:03,050 an island where the pigs can eat crabs 1345 01:15:09,130 --> 01:15:06,290 they can fertilize the ground and the 1346 01:15:10,510 --> 01:15:09,140 things can grow and they know that in 1347 01:15:13,450 --> 01:15:10,520 three or four years time when they come 1348 01:15:17,620 --> 01:15:13,460 back it's it's going to be okay they got 1349 01:15:18,910 --> 01:15:17,630 pigs and everything okay panic I have 1350 01:15:19,870 --> 01:15:18,920 another question for you from the chat 1351 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:19,880 room 1352 01:15:27,930 --> 01:15:22,610 what today see pirates steal the 1353 01:15:38,590 --> 01:15:35,230 today's sea pirates like myself we we 1354 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:38,600 are called upon to take part in an 1355 01:15:50,350 --> 01:15:44,570 operation and who requires our special 1356 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:50,360 services will call us in because they 1357 01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:53,330 can't find in their normal sphere of 1358 01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:56,570 operations okay SAS Gurion you nuts not 1359 01:16:03,850 --> 01:15:59,920 randomly running around looking yeah 1360 01:16:05,350 --> 01:16:03,860 people specifically uh I'm trying to 1361 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:05,360 think of the word but they specifically 1362 01:16:15,130 --> 01:16:11,090 ask you to do a specific task yeah so 1363 01:16:18,190 --> 01:16:15,140 you know I had the honor of capturing 1364 01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:18,200 two ships at the same time in the Red 1365 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:26,000 Sea and it was really so easy but I i 1366 01:16:32,380 --> 01:16:29,290 became a bigger pirate because of it 1367 01:16:35,980 --> 01:16:32,390 that I'd captured two ships at the same 1368 01:16:37,870 --> 01:16:35,990 time very good I captured the ships on 1369 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:37,880 orders you know I didn't capture the 1370 01:16:46,110 --> 01:16:42,170 ships for myself right ships because I 1371 01:16:49,930 --> 01:16:46,120 was paid to go and capture these ships 1372 01:16:55,530 --> 01:16:49,940 so that was the task yeah we go captures 1373 01:16:58,570 --> 01:16:55,540 two chips were they surprised well yeah 1374 01:17:01,150 --> 01:16:58,580 they they fired her ass with everything 1375 01:17:03,070 --> 01:17:01,160 they had you know we was more surprised 1376 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:03,080 today because we didn't expect to be 1377 01:17:09,010 --> 01:17:05,330 fired on with cannons and you know 1378 01:17:12,100 --> 01:17:09,020 did you carry a lot of armaments no uh I 1379 01:17:16,060 --> 01:17:12,110 carried absolutely no armaments tool 1380 01:17:19,750 --> 01:17:16,070 that night is it is it unusual that you 1381 01:17:23,070 --> 01:17:19,760 had such a long career I'm starting to 1382 01:17:27,070 --> 01:17:23,080 think of pirates is not living very long 1383 01:17:30,130 --> 01:17:27,080 well very game this is the myth pirates 1384 01:17:35,470 --> 01:17:33,190 some of the the world has been changed 1385 01:17:39,010 --> 01:17:35,480 by pirates I don't intend to change the 1386 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:39,020 world if I did it would be a better 1387 01:17:47,170 --> 01:17:43,690 world I can show you but yeah I mean 1388 01:17:50,770 --> 01:17:47,180 Rory curry create changed body he gave 1389 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:50,780 birth to Prussia and so yeah there's 1390 01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:52,730 pirates all over the place that have 1391 01:18:00,070 --> 01:17:56,960 changed world but what is happening 1392 01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:00,080 right now to the world the world can't 1393 01:18:13,350 --> 01:18:05,290 see it it's being hidden from them and 1394 01:18:19,050 --> 01:18:13,360 um it's breakfast time for whom well 1395 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:19,060 whoever planted the breakfast here is 1396 01:18:29,530 --> 01:18:23,570 going to collect it and um it's strange 1397 01:18:33,370 --> 01:18:29,540 that the commodities we have now at 78 1398 01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:33,380 billion people on the planet all tend to 1399 01:18:39,220 --> 01:18:36,560 run at the 60 million tonne mark you 1400 01:18:45,460 --> 01:18:39,230 know this the world produces 60 million 1401 01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:45,470 tons of potatoes of rice route 66 1402 01:18:58,110 --> 01:18:54,800 million tons of milk and 66 53 million 1403 01:19:01,090 --> 01:18:58,120 tons of eggs you know it's always 1404 01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:01,100 60-something million pounds of fish and 1405 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:06,320 so if somebody was to come here oh like 1406 01:19:12,460 --> 01:19:08,570 a pirate returning to the island with 1407 01:19:16,870 --> 01:19:12,470 all pigs on it he would find or they 1408 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:16,880 would find a planet there is absolutely 1409 01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:24,050 fully booked with food oh and one of the 1410 01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:27,770 biggest commodities in space like on the 1411 01:19:36,820 --> 01:19:31,040 sea the same thing this is an island in 1412 01:19:38,950 --> 01:19:36,830 space is food there are microns there 1413 01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:38,960 are planets with diamonds in gold and 1414 01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:41,120 copper and all other kinds of they 1415 01:19:45,770 --> 01:19:42,960 need they go there they get 1416 01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:45,780 but I think what we'll have to do is 1417 01:19:50,990 --> 01:19:47,760 have you on again because we we only 1418 01:19:52,580 --> 01:19:51,000 have a minute left and that's okay I 1419 01:19:54,830 --> 01:19:52,590 wanted to give you time to talk about 1420 01:19:59,270 --> 01:19:54,840 your website and how people can get your 1421 01:20:03,290 --> 01:19:59,280 book well that's nice if they if they go 1422 01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:03,300 to captain turns calm the book is there 1423 01:20:09,650 --> 01:20:05,250 they can click on the book the book is 1424 01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:09,660 called the 13-day it's a fairy story and 1425 01:20:18,220 --> 01:20:13,410 explains what this secret unknown group 1426 01:20:20,900 --> 01:20:18,230 of people know is about to happen okay 1427 01:20:22,610 --> 01:20:20,910 well I'm we're going to have to end here 1428 01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:22,620 which is a shame because this is very 1429 01:20:29,209 --> 01:20:26,250 very fascinating but well well we'll 1430 01:20:32,900 --> 01:20:29,219 have you on again and i hope you get on 1431 01:20:35,330 --> 01:20:32,910 some other shows um that's that's it for 1432 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:35,340 this week thank you very much to Anthony 1433 01:20:40,850 --> 01:20:38,130 comments bring it on to the show Thank 1434 01:20:42,950 --> 01:20:40,860 You Anthony and thank you to all of you 1435 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:42,960 for listening and I hope you have a 1436 01:20:47,450 --> 01:20:44,850 great week remember to smile a lot 1437 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:47,460 because it makes your brain happy and I